# 🎙 Stop DOING so much -- Exclusive interview with Mike Michalowicz, author of Clockwork

**URL:** <https://community.process.st/t/stop-doing-so-much-exclusive-interview-with-mike-michalowicz-author-of-clockwork/470>\
**Category:** Trainings\
**Created:** [September 9, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.process.st/t/stop-doing-so-much-exclusive-interview-with-mike-michalowicz-author-of-clockwork/470 "2022-09-09T18:22:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anne\_Perry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.process.st/anne_perry/32/404_2.png) [@Anne\_Perry](https://community.process.st/u/Anne_Perry)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.process.st/t/stop-doing-so-much-exclusive-interview-with-mike-michalowicz-author-of-clockwork/470/1 "2022-09-09T18:22:33Z")

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**If you lead a team and any of this is true…**

- You are working hard but not experiencing the momentum you expect

- Too much of your work is reactive versus proactive

- You’re putting in what feels like non-stop hours while carrying the weight your team on your shoulders

**[…then definitely watch this interview with Mike Michalowicz](https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/_0amaUbuwYT9aF838wBbQReiy0LhNw5UgVRF0ssnLVxQ9dJsFw3gIJgTUVvWrh8.XMJi2F4H5jPhE3o0?startTime=1662650907000)**

Mike is the author of Profit First and Clockwork, and we talked with him about DESIGN TIME. This conversation is all about how you step out of the drowning-in-too-much-to-do-yet-more-keeps-getting-piled-on trap and into steering-the-ship-and-everything-runs-like-clockwork zone.

▶ ▶ ▶ **[Click here to watch the 29 minute interview](https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/_0amaUbuwYT9aF838wBbQReiy0LhNw5UgVRF0ssnLVxQ9dJsFw3gIJgTUVvWrh8.XMJi2F4H5jPhE3o0?startTime=1662650907000)**

**What are your biggest takeaways? Let’s discuss!**

 ![Process Street Mike Michalowicz Interview](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/process_street/original/1X/6c623628855298eee4a2031469111d6756700d4d.png)

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Perry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.process.st/anne_perry/32/404_2.png) [@Anne\_Perry](https://community.process.st/u/Anne_Perry)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.process.st/t/stop-doing-so-much-exclusive-interview-with-mike-michalowicz-author-of-clockwork/470/2 "2022-09-09T18:41:03Z")

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I love Mike’s suggestion of extracting yourself from your team’s operations just a lil bit by bit at a time as a great way to test your clockworking efforts.

Another takeaway was having literally everyone do this, not just the CEO or team leaders. What a way to relieve pressure from every person, knowing the rest of the team has your back.

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**Author:** ![Jordan\_Michaelis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.process.st/jordan_michaelis/32/164_2.png) [@Jordan\_Michaelis](https://community.process.st/u/Jordan_Michaelis)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.process.st/t/stop-doing-so-much-exclusive-interview-with-mike-michalowicz-author-of-clockwork/470/3 "2022-09-09T21:11:48Z")

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I loved the analogy of looking at your job as a game of chess. It totally makes sense when you look at it that way.

I also agree with you Anne, knowing that everyone is doing this takes the pressure we get when we do decide to take a vacation.

Great webinar!!!

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Perry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.process.st/anne_perry/32/404_2.png) [@Anne\_Perry](https://community.process.st/u/Anne_Perry)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://community.process.st/t/stop-doing-so-much-exclusive-interview-with-mike-michalowicz-author-of-clockwork/470/4 "2022-09-09T21:32:06Z")

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YES @Jordan_Michaelis! The chess analogy was great. It makes sense to take time to strategize in chess yet in our fast-pace go go go society we place too much value on constant **doing**.